"I was in, I think, 23 different camps.
The first camp I came to was Zelenodolsk on the Volga River. We went in with 3,500 guys, and in a half year there were only 500 left. The Russians didn't do anything for us.
They let us die deliberately.
In one camp along the Volga, we were in bunk beds. I slept in a lower bed with eight guys. We were like sardines in a can. In the morning when the Russians came into the barracks, they counted how many people were there and how many were dead. We would hold a dead man up in front of us and act as if he was alive, so we would get a portion of his food."
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